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Hi Hater?

April 28th, 2008 | by BKScribe

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The Urban Dictionary defines Swagger Jacker as

“A person who steals the flow, ideas, swagger or style of someone else” While I understand Hip Hop is about emulation and innovation of styles and trends, cases can be built that showcase the opposite.

“Fuck the flow ya’ll jackin our slang” – Hov

Hi Hater is a term that dates back to Joe Budden, but represents an ideology that reaches as far back as the origins of humankind. Hip Hop has however personified the term “Don’t Hate” and gave it a whole new meaning. It’s gotten to the point where people drink haterade, wear hater blockers and avoid hateration in preference of holleration.

In other words muthafuckas beat a dying horse to death. It’s gotten to the point people that don’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of claim someone is hating on them, trying to ruin them or praying on their downfall. With the ideology preceding Hip Hop, but remaining prevalent in the relatively new music, Regular Joe simply threw caution to the wind and said ‘Hi Hater’.

Eventually that Idea became a secondary movement to being hated on. Where you greet your haters on equal terms and encourage them not to hate, but rather congratulate you on your presumed, assumed or resumed success.

Eventually a young artist out of the musically ailing NYC area decided to put his stamp on the idea in form of song and presented it to the masses. And that artist was Maino? NO. Rather it was an artist by the name of Young Sosa out of Washington Heights NY. who dropped a song of the same concept and name about 10 months earlier!

Now wait a second? Do you mean to tell me people in the music industry are capable of ‘Swagger Jacking’

*Grabs magic 8 ball*

*Ask again later*

Sure we all heard rule ’1080… record company people are shady’, but in this day and age where some record companies are experiencing a 100% return rate on shipped CD’s.. basically meaning if they send out 100 CD’s they get sent back 100 CD’s… they have to innovate on ways to make money.

The term microwavable music has been made very popular of late, most notably by Jiggaman himself. As these labels hemorrhage cash, especially in the genre of Hip Hop in which the ‘get it by any means’ mentality has been instilled since we were letting The Tape Rock Till The Tape Popped, artists and labels alike have sought ways to make marketable music (in most cases you can replace marketable with disposable) and ways in which to make money off that very same music.

The D4L, to MIMS to Soulja Boy(unless he makes another hit.. I know I know) set are the new wave of this Major Label desperation.

Lack of innovation and refusal to adopt new mediums such as DA INTERNETZ has proven to be a bigger faux pas than previously thought by ‘industry insiders’…

Little known secret… most ‘industry insiders’ true depth of knowledge or insight regarding the music industry and how to harness the new media isn’t as much as you think their position would mandate them to have. Or in other words.. That and 2 dollars will get you on the train.

So I say all that to say this..

Is it feasible that in an effort to produce a song they think will be a hit (even though maino’s version was heavily panned on a multitude of sites) They might have browsed around demo’s or a myspace page and said, you know what.. I could fuck with this concept and homie is a Dominican Cat from uptown.. No one will even notice? I wonder..

It isn’t a case of ‘Surviving the times’ sounding identical, but concepts are ideas and good ideas are invaluable while bad ideas are worthless.. even if the execution isn’t on point.

Here is the video.. you decide

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It might seem like a matter of opinion, but the general voice thus far has been “Homie got swagger jacked”

  • http://www.recruitzero.com/ Recruit Zero’s New Site is maj

    People never give credit where credit is due…the entertainment industry has the “Get it by any means” mindstate, as you said, and they have brainwashed the entertainers to do it too.

    Guys are getting raped by deals, and become desperate for help (and for that benz), and throw creativity and originality and such ideals to the wind for a quick buck.

    On a tangent, that blog was well written as shit, dude…where else do you do writing stuff?

  • http://www.recruitzero.com Recruit Zero’s New Site is major!

    People never give credit where credit is due…the entertainment industry has the “Get it by any means” mindstate, as you said, and they have brainwashed the entertainers to do it too.

    Guys are getting raped by deals, and become desperate for help (and for that benz), and throw creativity and originality and such ideals to the wind for a quick buck.

    On a tangent, that blog was well written as shit, dude…where else do you do writing stuff?

  • No more Ty big’s, just call me

    dope post BK co-sign recruit the shit was real well written

    but I honestly don’t think it’s a case of swagger jacking, definitely not anymore than nas’s last track jacked NYoil or he jacked that wordsmith guys track

    the only similarities I see/hear are the Hi Hater part, which you pointed out both of them swacked from Budden. Now Budden first said that shit but it’s just a simple funny comment, it’s not something that should be exclusive to him, if it was hip-hop would be in a lot more trouble.

    I mean look at when Cam dissed Jay-z on calling him a Swagger Jacker ( which we all use as a term now ) Cam was swagger Jacking some random DJ’s idea that Jay was a biter, nevermind all the shit Cam has swagger jacked as well.

    theres millions of rappers and ” aspiring ” rappers out there, it’s only natural some people are gonna have similar concepts ideas or titles for songs, making a song where you repeat Hi Hater over and over again isn’t exactly some crazy imaginative shit that could only be thought up by a genius, in fact it’s quite the opposite. Real talk after Budden started saying it I know people who would break out into Hi Hater type chants while playing basketball or video games or just trash talking in general just to be silly, I’m not saying it’s not possible one side swacked the other but I need more proof than the fact that they both repeat Hi Hater multiple times

    “No idea is original, there’s nothing new under the sun /
    it’s never what you do, but how it’s done” (c) Nas

    and he obviously wasn’t the first to say something to that effect either, whether your talking about a Led Zeppelin album or a quote from the bible

  • No more Ty big’s, just call me KENARD

    dope post BK co-sign recruit the shit was real well written

    but I honestly don’t think it’s a case of swagger jacking, definitely not anymore than nas’s last track jacked NYoil or he jacked that wordsmith guys track

    the only similarities I see/hear are the Hi Hater part, which you pointed out both of them swacked from Budden. Now Budden first said that shit but it’s just a simple funny comment, it’s not something that should be exclusive to him, if it was hip-hop would be in a lot more trouble.

    I mean look at when Cam dissed Jay-z on calling him a Swagger Jacker ( which we all use as a term now ) Cam was swagger Jacking some random DJ’s idea that Jay was a biter, nevermind all the shit Cam has swagger jacked as well.

    theres millions of rappers and ” aspiring ” rappers out there, it’s only natural some people are gonna have similar concepts ideas or titles for songs, making a song where you repeat Hi Hater over and over again isn’t exactly some crazy imaginative shit that could only be thought up by a genius, in fact it’s quite the opposite. Real talk after Budden started saying it I know people who would break out into Hi Hater type chants while playing basketball or video games or just trash talking in general just to be silly, I’m not saying it’s not possible one side swacked the other but I need more proof than the fact that they both repeat Hi Hater multiple times

    “No idea is original, there’s nothing new under the sun /
    it’s never what you do, but how it’s done” (c) Nas

    and he obviously wasn’t the first to say something to that effect either, whether your talking about a Led Zeppelin album or a quote from the bible

  • http://bkscribe.alumnah.com/ BKScribe

    On a tangent, that blog was well written as shit, dude…where else do you do writing stuff?

    ^Cave walls typically..

  • http://bkscribe.alumnah.com BKScribe

    On a tangent, that blog was well written as shit, dude…where else do you do writing stuff?

    ^Cave walls typically..

  • No more Ty big’s, just call me

    word I was gonna say there could be more to the story I don’t know obviously but I don’t know if you can really say it’s so far off from anything main-o has ever done, cause main-o stays doing a bunch of different shit, a lot of his music sounds different not all of it’s good but I think he tries different shit a lot and when I first heard this I thought it fit him, although I think the songs terrible, but admittedly I am a main-o fan as far as straight ignorant rap main-o is one of my favorites

  • No more Ty big’s, just call me KENARD

    word I was gonna say there could be more to the story I don’t know obviously but I don’t know if you can really say it’s so far off from anything main-o has ever done, cause main-o stays doing a bunch of different shit, a lot of his music sounds different not all of it’s good but I think he tries different shit a lot and when I first heard this I thought it fit him, although I think the songs terrible, but admittedly I am a main-o fan as far as straight ignorant rap main-o is one of my favorites

  • http://bkscribe.alumnah.com/ BKScribe

    LOL @ as far as straight ignorant rap…

    That should be a grammy category..

    Although uncle murda would take the win

  • http://bkscribe.alumnah.com BKScribe

    LOL @ as far as straight ignorant rap…

    That should be a grammy category..

    Although uncle murda would take the win

  • No more Ty big’s, just call me

    lmao at the thought of a grammy category called straight ignorant rap

    * calls Grammy’s *

  • No more Ty big’s, just call me KENARD

    lmao at the thought of a grammy category called straight ignorant rap

    * calls Grammy’s *

  • http://rey.alumnah.com/ Rey aka Still In Florida

    Straight Ignorant Rap Grammys? *sniff-sniff* Smells like a Faculty Post to me.

  • http://rey.alumnah.com Rey aka Still In Florida

    Straight Ignorant Rap Grammys? *sniff-sniff* Smells like a Faculty Post to me.

  • http://blogs.hiphopdx.com/ambassador amanda

    Hi alumnah, BK, Rey, greenie, everyone else.

    Ignorant Rap Grammys would certainly make me smile lol.

    <3. I hope everyone’s surviving the rainy day with at least a decent mood at the end of it all.

    “Big ups, to all my haaaaatersss!” ha. Don’t ever quote me quoting that.

  • http://blogs.hiphopdx.com/ambassador amanda

    Hi alumnah, BK, Rey, greenie, everyone else.

    Ignorant Rap Grammys would certainly make me smile lol.

    <3. I hope everyone’s surviving the rainy day with at least a decent mood at the end of it all.

    “Big ups, to all my haaaaatersss!” ha. Don’t ever quote me quoting that.

  • Two-Times

    I would defitnely say it’s swagger jackin…

    the main concept of the song is “hi hater” and Maino bit that part…

    what’s the end result of this situation do u know bkscribe?

    btw, homeboy versions was nice too.. i liked it

  • Two-Times

    I would defitnely say it’s swagger jackin…

    the main concept of the song is “hi hater” and Maino bit that part…

    what’s the end result of this situation do u know bkscribe?

    btw, homeboy versions was nice too.. i liked it

  • http://bkscribe.alumnah.com/ BKScribe

    Whattup amanda..

    Dapz Two Times..

    as for the end result.. I guess to quote the luminary 50 cent.. Aggressive Competition?

    in all seriousness though there is enough room for everyone.. (No reys fitted)

  • http://bkscribe.alumnah.com BKScribe

    Whattup amanda..

    Dapz Two Times..

    as for the end result.. I guess to quote the luminary 50 cent.. Aggressive Competition?

    in all seriousness though there is enough room for everyone.. (No reys fitted)

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